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Morning Vista
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Morning Vista
Description: Long time no post huh? I've been dabbling around with e-on's Vue and am considering purchasing it. This render is with the Personal Learning Edition (PLE), hence the watermark. EcoSystems and spectral sky, plus a volumetric point light to help things. Enjoy.
Added by: icecreamman
Keywords: icecreamman, vue, 6, ple, personal, learning, edition, morning, vista
Date: 11.07.2007 00:10
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Rating: 5.00 (1 Vote(s))
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rashadcarter1
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Join Date: 06.04.2006
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There is a reason that Vue is number 1. No doubt that spectral skies and eco-systems change everything. The clouds are very well done. Bryce could not ever produce skies like this. The foliage also looks good. I feel like the scene is a touch on the dark side. The light from the sky seems too dim. But noi doubt, Vue is awesome and worth it to purchase. Nice to see from you again. Long time no see.
11.07.2007 02:17 Offline rashadcarter1 rashadcarter1 at aol.com
spektyr
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Join Date: 07.02.2005
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So Vue has a PLE too? I've done a little playing with the Maya PLE but not much. I hate that irritating watermark.

This is very natural looking. I only have one problem with it. The sun is too large for that elevation. Otherwise it has a good photo realistic look. I'll give it a 4/5
11.07.2007 03:44 Offline spektyr spektyr at aol.com http://www.spektyr.com
gat
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Join Date: 12.21.2006
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It could use a lot more vegetation, and why not Vue can handle huge amounts of polygons. Also, the skies in Vue are awesome, they are still not as good as terragen's. And the render times are still kind of slow. By the way is the Vue6.5 PLE out yet? I want to test it, as I herd there were some speed improvements.
11.07.2007 05:35 Offline gat brshkv at yahoo.com
icecreamman
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Join Date: 05.18.2007
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Yes, the 6.5 PLE is out, mostly obscure little improvements that only help a few people. The main thing is their cloud lighting techniques. I agree, the lighting looks a little dim, and the sun could use some work. Vue is nice, but it has 3 main drawbacks:

1. The terrain editor is terrible unless you use complex procedural terrains and functions.

2. The function editor is really hard to understand (I suppose just like the DTE)

3. Render times just aren't what I wish they were.

Overall these are the biggest problems I've found, and some will diminish with experience. Thanks for your feedback.
11.07.2007 13:10 Offline icecreamman jtemple032 at yahoo.com
Horo
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I agree, it is a nice picture and a very realistically looking sky. There are a few things that are slightly amiss: the clouds are grainy and the sun is too large (may be on another planet, than it may be right). The dark shadows makes it look like a photograph. That's where IBL could come in handy. The plants look very good at this size and darkness. The important thing is to see an entry from you after a long time.
11.07.2007 17:44 Offline Horo h.-r.h.wernli at bluewin.ch https://www.horo.ch/
davidbrinnen
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Join Date: 01.03.2004
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The light on/through the leaf tips that was the thing that impressed itself upon me most about this render. The overall effect is very good. Most realistic. I'm sorry it is not bryce, but I think we all accept that it would be qutie a challange to create this render in bryce, particulalry with the limiations of the bryce sky to deal with. I think possibly Rashad would stand the best chance with his skills with volumetric clouds and transparency through foliage. Otherwise I agree with the comments made above. The largeness of the sun is perhaps the most noticable issue with the image, but still very good indeed.
11.07.2007 18:02 Offline davidbrinnen mail at davidbrinnen.co.uk http://www.davidbrinnen.com
rashadcarter1
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Join Date: 06.04.2006
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Thanks for the vote of confidence David. I've been using alot of IBl so I have not done much with volumetrics or transparent foliage lately.
I think that bryce could do all of what we see here, but it would as noted be rather challenging. The clouds could be done no problem and the foliage transparency also, but not in a single render. The environmental lighting as Horo stated would be best accomplished with IBL. But IBL has its limitations as well as drawbacks. The volumetrics would fail to function as that bug has not been fixed. And with light coming from every direction the foliage transparency would drive the render times through the roof, though the final effect would be very nice. I would need to find a way to render such a scene in the first place, a way to find enough power. No choice but to render the entire scene IBL, then a second render of just the sky with radial primary & secondary lightsources so the volumetrics would express themselves fully. Rigging an ibl simulation with radials is something I've done before, but it could be very tricky.

Vue does all of this with one render, even on a learner's version. That's good because it means that the simple stuff like realistic skies and environmental lighting and folige transparency is taken care of so you can focus on the specifics of your scene, adding even more to the over-all realism. A Bryce learner's version would not produce such thought provoking imagery. Vue is a great tool, no doubt.
11.07.2007 18:27 Offline rashadcarter1 rashadcarter1 at aol.com
richter
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Join Date: 04.15.2004
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What can I say - looks beautiful. Welcome back, Icecreamman! Btw I think the grainyness on the clouds' shaded places comes from a render option, which is most probably unavailable in the learning vers.

I always knew that Vue is the perfect tool for environmental-oriented artists. This PLE version proves it at 100%. But what is a handy tool for, without a skilled craftsman to shape the wood and stone into beautiful masterpieces. Keep on working, Icecreamman, I'm anxious to Vue more from you ;)
11.10.2007 10:30 Offline richter richter at cold-may.com
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